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	<title>Comments on: An Englishman&#8217;s Home is his Illegal Castle in a Haystack</title>
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	<description>Why bother seeing the world for real?</description>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://googlesightseeing.com/2008/02/an-englishmans-home-is-his-illegal-castle-in-a-haystack/comment-page-1/#comment-204848</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Our freedoms are dropping little by little each year with various laws. I think tearing down someones home is cruel. If the home is built safe why have an issue over it? Whoever said protect the country well the countryside is a dump already so nothing much to protect.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You can own property but you dont own it at the same time. The city came one day and tore all our trees out of the front lawn to check on some pipe. Then left the lawn all torn and barren of trees. And they dont care they just ripped up all the money you put into getting trees and a lawn.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Privacy and freedom is going down the drain fast.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our freedoms are dropping little by little each year with various laws. I think tearing down someones home is cruel. If the home is built safe why have an issue over it? Whoever said protect the country well the countryside is a dump already so nothing much to protect.</p>

<p>You can own property but you dont own it at the same time. The city came one day and tore all our trees out of the front lawn to check on some pipe. Then left the lawn all torn and barren of trees. And they dont care they just ripped up all the money you put into getting trees and a lawn.</p>

<p>Privacy and freedom is going down the drain fast.</p>
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		<title>By: BeingHuman</title>
		<link>http://googlesightseeing.com/2008/02/an-englishmans-home-is-his-illegal-castle-in-a-haystack/comment-page-1/#comment-204843</link>
		<dc:creator>BeingHuman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Both sides of the argument have valid points, but what of common sense? Aren&#039;t they all being a tad pedantic? I suspect this project has little effect (in real terms) on the community/neighbourhood/countryside. It&#039;s relatively inoffensive and unobtrusive as a structure, considering the area.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Admittedly, the builder was wrong to dodge the system. That should be addressed. But I think the council should refrain from over-reacting by tearing it down; it&#039;s too extreme a response, and probably has no real purpose than to simply prove a point or enforce the law. Something less theatrical would suffice. A fine, perhaps? I&#039;m certain any local government could use a financial injection.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The law is the law, of course, and it is there for a reason. But we should apply common sense with it, especially in such a relatively unimportant matter.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both sides of the argument have valid points, but what of common sense? Aren&#8217;t they all being a tad pedantic? I suspect this project has little effect (in real terms) on the community/neighbourhood/countryside. It&#8217;s relatively inoffensive and unobtrusive as a structure, considering the area.</p>

<p>Admittedly, the builder was wrong to dodge the system. That should be addressed. But I think the council should refrain from over-reacting by tearing it down; it&#8217;s too extreme a response, and probably has no real purpose than to simply prove a point or enforce the law. Something less theatrical would suffice. A fine, perhaps? I&#8217;m certain any local government could use a financial injection.</p>

<p>The law is the law, of course, and it is there for a reason. But we should apply common sense with it, especially in such a relatively unimportant matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Turnbull</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Turnbull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Only about a week old actually - they arrived the same time as threaded comments!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only about a week old actually &#8211; they arrived the same time as threaded comments!</p>
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		<title>By: russ</title>
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		<dc:creator>russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;are the gravatar icons new?  i&#039;ve been reading GSS in google reader too much - need to visit more often to read the comments!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are the gravatar icons new?  i&#8217;ve been reading GSS in google reader too much &#8211; need to visit more often to read the comments!</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Beck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As someone said, clever exploitation. If people donºt complain about a huge stack of haybails for 4 years it was obviously jealousy that made them complain about the planning permission. In all honesty iºd love to see a castle at the end of the road, theyºre beautiful! Id say tough luck on the neighbours, they deserve it and he deserves his castle !&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone said, clever exploitation. If people donºt complain about a huge stack of haybails for 4 years it was obviously jealousy that made them complain about the planning permission. In all honesty iºd love to see a castle at the end of the road, theyºre beautiful! Id say tough luck on the neighbours, they deserve it and he deserves his castle !</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 08:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Planning commissions are generally in place to protect the ecological/esthetic standards, and property values.  So, if the house is built to code (plumbing, electrical, structural, etc) and it&#039;s safe then this shouldn&#039;t be an issue. Plus if it doesn&#039;t negatively impact the environment as would any other building then, again, that shouldn&#039;t be an issue.  As to the esthetics, if the planning commission and the community believe this house is worse looking that the huge trashy pile of hay tarped and covered in tired, well, then, it&#039;s not Fidler who&#039;s a bit wacked.  Come on!  Clearly the house is more in keeping with community standards that a trashy pile of tarped hay.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Call it what it is, hurt feelings.  It really sounds like the planning commission got it&#039;s ego bruised.  Oh, for shame!  So what if the guy is possible a pain in the you-know-what.  Is the government&#039;s need to repair it&#039;s ego and prove it&#039;s muscle more important than and existing home of a working family?  I guess in England it is.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Good thing this planning commission aren&#039;t in Spain... just imagine what they&#039;d do.  They could probably show the Spainards a thing or two about harassing it&#039;s own citizens.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Planning commissions are generally in place to protect the ecological/esthetic standards, and property values.  So, if the house is built to code (plumbing, electrical, structural, etc) and it&#8217;s safe then this shouldn&#8217;t be an issue. Plus if it doesn&#8217;t negatively impact the environment as would any other building then, again, that shouldn&#8217;t be an issue.  As to the esthetics, if the planning commission and the community believe this house is worse looking that the huge trashy pile of hay tarped and covered in tired, well, then, it&#8217;s not Fidler who&#8217;s a bit wacked.  Come on!  Clearly the house is more in keeping with community standards that a trashy pile of tarped hay.</p>

<p>Call it what it is, hurt feelings.  It really sounds like the planning commission got it&#8217;s ego bruised.  Oh, for shame!  So what if the guy is possible a pain in the you-know-what.  Is the government&#8217;s need to repair it&#8217;s ego and prove it&#8217;s muscle more important than and existing home of a working family?  I guess in England it is.</p>

<p>Good thing this planning commission aren&#8217;t in Spain&#8230; just imagine what they&#8217;d do.  They could probably show the Spainards a thing or two about harassing it&#8217;s own citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: Skuffy</title>
		<link>http://googlesightseeing.com/2008/02/an-englishmans-home-is-his-illegal-castle-in-a-haystack/comment-page-1/#comment-199673</link>
		<dc:creator>Skuffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You keep fighting ..No-way can or should they make you take it down..Just watched Homes From Hell...Write to the Queen&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You keep fighting ..No-way can or should they make you take it down..Just watched Homes From Hell&#8230;Write to the Queen</p>
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		<title>By: ajho</title>
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		<dc:creator>ajho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 00:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;From the report in the oxymoronic &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redhillandreigatelife.co.uk/display.var.1989097.0.illegallybuilt_house_hidden_in_haystack_inquiry_told.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Redhill and Reigate Life&lt;/a&gt;, it would appear not to be the first time the aptly named, Mr Fidler, has had a run in with the planners. It seems to have started in 1992 when he was done for using an agricultural building for industrial purposes. Agricultural buildings do not need planning permission hence the plethora of ugly and inappropriate buildings that so scare the British countryside.  Industrial buildings do.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This has now escalated to the point where, &quot;If a Government-appointed inspector upholds the notices, within six months he will have to tear down a farmhouse, conservatory, marquee and timber bridge and remove a hardstanding parking area, patio, timber decking and a Tarmac race track.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s one thing to make a genuine mistake over the law, but that&#039;s just taking the piss.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the report in the oxymoronic <a href="http://www.redhillandreigatelife.co.uk/display.var.1989097.0.illegallybuilt_house_hidden_in_haystack_inquiry_told.php" rel="nofollow">Redhill and Reigate Life</a>, it would appear not to be the first time the aptly named, Mr Fidler, has had a run in with the planners. It seems to have started in 1992 when he was done for using an agricultural building for industrial purposes. Agricultural buildings do not need planning permission hence the plethora of ugly and inappropriate buildings that so scare the British countryside.  Industrial buildings do.</p>

<p>This has now escalated to the point where, &#8220;If a Government-appointed inspector upholds the notices, within six months he will have to tear down a farmhouse, conservatory, marquee and timber bridge and remove a hardstanding parking area, patio, timber decking and a Tarmac race track.&#8221;</p>

<p>It&#8217;s one thing to make a genuine mistake over the law, but that&#8217;s just taking the piss.</p>
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		<title>By: Expategghead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Expategghead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 09:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is it me or does that second  picture open up in a Microsoft site? Odd for a google sightseeing blog.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: smellystuff in my sandals</title>
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		<dc:creator>smellystuff in my sandals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i still think it&#039;s quite out of socially acceptable and regular predictable socially responsible character to cover your house in hay bales cos you don&#039;t want any one to know you&#039;ve built a hooge turdor mansion on your property.
It&#039;s like me putting a semi permanent steel gardening shed in my back yard and covering it in whipped cream to make sure no one notices cos i havn&#039;t got council approval. Just plain out of his mind.
freedom is in the mind. which is honestly free.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i still think it&#8217;s quite out of socially acceptable and regular predictable socially responsible character to cover your house in hay bales cos you don&#8217;t want any one to know you&#8217;ve built a hooge turdor mansion on your property.
It&#8217;s like me putting a semi permanent steel gardening shed in my back yard and covering it in whipped cream to make sure no one notices cos i havn&#8217;t got council approval. Just plain out of his mind.
freedom is in the mind. which is honestly free.</p>
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