Comments on: Spirit Lake http://googlesightseeing.com/2008/03/20/spirit-lake/ Why bother seeing the world for real? Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:38:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: hairylegs http://googlesightseeing.com/2008/03/20/spirit-lake/#comment-199513 hairylegs Fri, 28 Mar 2008 00:56:57 +0000 http://googlesightseeing.com/2008/03/20/spirit-lake/#comment-199513 http://www.grisda.org/origins/10009.htm has info on floating logs! http://www.grisda.org/origins/10009.htm has info on floating logs!

]]> By: Walkabout Wolf http://googlesightseeing.com/2008/03/20/spirit-lake/#comment-199422 Walkabout Wolf Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:37:26 +0000 http://googlesightseeing.com/2008/03/20/spirit-lake/#comment-199422 Yes, the logs are floating and they do drift around in the wind quite a bit. The main reason nothing is done with them is that the entire area around St. Helens has been left untouched as a long term experiment to see how the area recovers after the devastating blast/ landslide. I visit the area every few years and it is quite fascinating to see the recovery process. Here's what it looks like from the ground: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walkaboutwolf/191407331/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/walkaboutwolf/191407274/ Yes, the logs are floating and they do drift around in the wind quite a bit. The main reason nothing is done with them is that the entire area around St. Helens has been left untouched as a long term experiment to see how the area recovers after the devastating blast/ landslide. I visit the area every few years and it is quite fascinating to see the recovery process.

Here’s what it looks like from the ground:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/walkaboutwolf/191407331/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/walkaboutwolf/191407274/

]]> By: nova72 http://googlesightseeing.com/2008/03/20/spirit-lake/#comment-199420 nova72 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 04:20:11 +0000 http://googlesightseeing.com/2008/03/20/spirit-lake/#comment-199420 I could definitely understand the mass of logs moving within days. Winds there can be very high. The logs could also move according to the flow of water with the use of the army corp pumps or the drainage tunnel. It's hard to imagine the environmental effect on the ecosystem of the river that was blocked by the mudslide and trees. I wonder why there hasn't been an effort to remove the logs, I realize water logged logs probably aren't much of a desire for flooring or furniture, but there must be some use for them. Any thoughts? I could definitely understand the mass of logs moving within days. Winds there can be very high. The logs could also move according to the flow of water with the use of the army corp pumps or the drainage tunnel.

It’s hard to imagine the environmental effect on the ecosystem of the river that was blocked by the mudslide and trees.

I wonder why there hasn’t been an effort to remove the logs, I realize water logged logs probably aren’t much of a desire for flooring or furniture, but there must be some use for them. Any thoughts?

]]> By: Marc http://googlesightseeing.com/2008/03/20/spirit-lake/#comment-199419 Marc Fri, 21 Mar 2008 04:16:44 +0000 http://googlesightseeing.com/2008/03/20/spirit-lake/#comment-199419 Does anyone know why these trees were never removed and taken to a saw mill to be cut up and used? Does anyone know why these trees were never removed and taken to a saw mill to be cut up and used?

]]> By: James http://googlesightseeing.com/2008/03/20/spirit-lake/#comment-199416 James Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:06:35 +0000 http://googlesightseeing.com/2008/03/20/spirit-lake/#comment-199416 @Ben: Yeah, that post was about the volcano - this one's about the entirely separate lake ;-) @drR: Good point! @nova: Cheers for the links - that photo of the miniscule boat is brilliant! @Dunkleosteus: Good spot - I didn't notice they were Digitalglobe images. In fact, I've found the exact images in digitaglobe's archive, and the two images are only 3 days apart! The lower image was <a href="http://archive.digitalglobe.com/archive/showBrowse.php?catID=10100100034C9002" rel="nofollow">October 2nd 2004</a>, when all the logs are clumped together in the south. The upper image is 3 days later, <a href="http://archive.digitalglobe.com/archive/showBrowse.php?catID=10100100034E6401" rel="nofollow">October 5th 2004</a> when all the logs have been blown to the north. @Ben: Yeah, that post was about the volcano - this one’s about the entirely separate lake ;-)

@drR: Good point!

@nova: Cheers for the links - that photo of the miniscule boat is brilliant!

@Dunkleosteus: Good spot - I didn’t notice they were Digitalglobe images.

In fact, I’ve found the exact images in digitaglobe’s archive, and the two images are only 3 days apart! The lower image was October 2nd 2004, when all the logs are clumped together in the south.

The upper image is 3 days later, October 5th 2004 when all the logs have been blown to the north.

]]> By: Dunkleosteus http://googlesightseeing.com/2008/03/20/spirit-lake/#comment-199415 Dunkleosteus Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:27:11 +0000 http://googlesightseeing.com/2008/03/20/spirit-lake/#comment-199415 Never say "no way to know" if you're using Google. The DigitalGlobe Coverage layer on Google Earth reveals that the southern part of the photo was taken on 2nd or 5th October 2004, and perplexingly, so seems to be the case with the upper part. The greener photos that cover the Bear Cove are from August 2006. Are the logs actually floating? It sounds incredible, considering how many years they've been in the lake. Never say “no way to know” if you’re using Google. The DigitalGlobe Coverage layer on Google Earth reveals that the southern part of the photo was taken on 2nd or 5th October 2004, and perplexingly, so seems to be the case with the upper part. The greener photos that cover the Bear Cove are from August 2006.

Are the logs actually floating? It sounds incredible, considering how many years they’ve been in the lake.

]]> By: nova72 http://googlesightseeing.com/2008/03/20/spirit-lake/#comment-199414 nova72 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:11:25 +0000 http://googlesightseeing.com/2008/03/20/spirit-lake/#comment-199414 The number of trees in the water is incredible. The area of the southern portion of the lake covered by logs is about 631 acres or just under 1 square mile! Check out this old black and white Live Maps image... http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=46.271749~-122.141533&style=r&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&encType=1 Also in Live Maps when you zoom out you get another view of log coverage. It appears the zoomed out Live Maps and zoomed out GE imagery appear to be either from the same source or same time period. I venture to say the zoomed out imagery and northern zoomed in GE image are older, and the southern GE zoomed in image is newer. Interesting article here, talks about Army Corp solutions for the lake outlet etc etc http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/Volcanoes/MSH/NatMonument/PointsInterest/spirit_lake.html Many more links/ info here from the USGS, http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/Volcanoes/MSH/Hydrology/Lakes/SpiritLake/framework.html Awesome pics here from USGS, look under Spirit Lake section, check out the one with the Water Quality boat http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/Volcanoes/MSH/Images/lakes.html The number of trees in the water is incredible. The area of the southern portion of the lake covered by logs is about 631 acres or just under 1 square mile! Check out this old black and white Live Maps image…
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=46.271749~-122.141533&style=r&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&encType=1

Also in Live Maps when you zoom out you get another view of log coverage. It appears the zoomed out Live Maps and zoomed out GE imagery appear to be either from the same source or same time period. I venture to say the zoomed out imagery and northern zoomed in GE image are older, and the southern GE zoomed in image is newer.

Interesting article here, talks about Army Corp solutions for the lake outlet etc etc
http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/Volcanoes/MSH/NatMonument/PointsInterest/spirit_lake.html

Many more links/ info here from the USGS,
http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/Volcanoes/MSH/Hydrology/Lakes/SpiritLake/framework.html
Awesome pics here from USGS, look under Spirit Lake section, check out the one with the Water Quality boat
http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/Volcanoes/MSH/Images/lakes.html

]]> By: dr.R. http://googlesightseeing.com/2008/03/20/spirit-lake/#comment-199413 dr.R. Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:50:31 +0000 http://googlesightseeing.com/2008/03/20/spirit-lake/#comment-199413 Well, image resolution for sure has improved since April 2005! Well, image resolution for sure has improved since April 2005!

]]> By: dr.R. http://googlesightseeing.com/2008/03/20/spirit-lake/#comment-199412 dr.R. Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:48:35 +0000 http://googlesightseeing.com/2008/03/20/spirit-lake/#comment-199412 Just a thought: maybe the logs have only been redistributed by the wind? As MymsMan pointed out, if you zoom out you will see more logs in the northern part of the lake, but less in the south, compared to what you see in the detailed images. Maybe the logs are floating north? And now let's check out that original post on Mt. St. Helens! Just a thought: maybe the logs have only been redistributed by the wind? As MymsMan pointed out, if you zoom out you will see more logs in the northern part of the lake, but less in the south, compared to what you see in the detailed images. Maybe the logs are floating north?

And now let’s check out that original post on Mt. St. Helens!

]]> By: Ben http://googlesightseeing.com/2008/03/20/spirit-lake/#comment-199411 Ben Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:45:14 +0000 http://googlesightseeing.com/2008/03/20/spirit-lake/#comment-199411 Did we not have a post about Mt St Helens already? Or is it just one of those places most navigated on Google? Cant believe you're running out of material...? Did we not have a post about Mt St Helens already? Or is it just one of those places most navigated on Google? Cant believe you’re running out of material…?

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